Interview Series: How Incomplete is the Theory of the Firm? Q&A with Daniel Carpenter

Should the economic theory of the firm be modified? If so, how? In March, the Stigler Center at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, Harvard Business School, and Oxford University will organize a conference to answer these questions and more. Ahead of the conference, we are launching an interview series with influential scholars in the field. In the first installment, Daniel Carpenter answers our questions: “the profitability and survival prospects of many firms in the coming years will depend heavily, in a polarized environment, on the political skills of managers.”

 


The standard (economic) theory of the firm is silent on the role firms can play in shaping the rules of the game under which they operate. In reality, many firms lobby politicians and try to capture regulators in order to modify the rules of the game in their favor. Some scholars have argued that the resources devoted to these activities are relatively so small that they are likely to have insignificant effects, and/or that regardless of how much firms invest in political activities, in a well-functioning democracy there are countervailing forces that effectively level the playing field. Other scholars have noted that the resources firms devote to shaping the rules of the game to their own advantage are sufficiently large and their effects sufficiently important to warrant a rethinking of the standard economic theory of the firm. Which of these two views has more empirical support? If the latter, should the economic theory of the firm be modified? If so, how, and is the potential fix better or worse than the existing problem?

 

To address these questions, the Stigler Center at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, Harvard Business School, and Oxford University will organize a conference in Chicago on March 3–4, 2017.

 

The following interview with Professor Daniel Carpenter is part of an interview series ahead of the conference with influential scholars who are addressing these issues in their work. 


 

Daniel Carpenter
Daniel Carpenter

Daniel Carpenter is the Allie S. Freed Professor of Government in the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, and Director of Social Sciences at the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study at Harvard University. He is known for his innovative research on regulatory capture, as well as for research that combines theoretical, historical, statistical, and mathematical analyses to examine the development of political institutions, particularly in the United States, focusing on public bureaucracies and government regulation—particularly the regulation of health and financial products.

 

In a brief interview with ProMarket ahead of the upcoming conference on the theory of the firm, in which he will be taking part, Carpenter shared some thoughts on the role of corporations and government interference in the market.

 

Q: The neoclassical theory of the firm does not consider political engagement by corporations. How big of an omission do you think this is?

 

I think it’s an immense omission. For one, we can’t even talk about the historical origins of many firms without talking about corporate charters, limited liability arrangements, zoning, public contracts and grants, and so on. To view these processes as legal and not political is a significant mistake. I’m currently writing a lot on the history of petitioning in Europe and North America, and in areas ranging from railroads, to technology-heavy industries, to extractive industries, to banking, firms (or their investors) had to bring a case before the legislature, or an agency of government, or both. They usually used petitions to do so. 

 

Beyond the past and into the present, there are a range of firm activities that we can’t understand without looking at politics. Industrial organization considers regulator-firm interactions, but does not theorize the fact that now most firms have regulatory affairs and compliance offices, or the fact that firms hire not just lobbyists but lawyers to do a lot of political work for them.

 

And in the future, the profitability and survival prospects of many firms in the coming years will depend heavily, in a polarized environment, on the political skills of managers. The theory of the firm was developed in an era (1950s – 2000) when globalism was the rule. What might it look like if Trump and Brexit are the new norm?

 

Q: To what extent is political engagement by corporations responsible for the current populist discontent?

 

That’s a tricky one.  I think a lot of populist discontent has to do with forces beyond the political control of firms—technological displacement, mass migration and immigration, tensions in the Middle East and their diffusion to other areas of the world (including terrorism). But Joseph Stiglitz has made the persuasive point that for most of the twentieth century trade agreements focused on reducing tariffs and direct trade barriers, whereas in the past 20 years or so they have become increasingly focused on end-running national governments and their constituencies through tools such as investor-state dispute resolutions. That point needs to be studied, but it’s an interesting hypothesis. It is clear that many citizens view the webs linking governments and corporations as corrupt.

 

Q: The World Economic Forum has called for “reimagining” and “reforming” capitalism. To what extent is this need for reform the result of disruption brought by technological change, globalization, and immigration and to what extent is it the effect of rent seeking and regulatory capture?

 

Is the World Economic Forum relevant anymore? I ask that seriously. I think the important ideas for reforming capitalism are going to come from outside of Davos, and they will include answers to questions such as (1) How do societies deal with the changing nature of work (and the fact that so much of existing patterns of human labor will be done by machines)? (2) How will capitalism adapt to slowing population growth (which is simply going to happen no matter what nations do to incentivize childbirth)? (3) How can capitalism prevent the concentration of decision-making power into the hands of global elites, or if you will, Davos itself?

 

Q: Some people describe Donald Trump’s economic policies as “corporatism.” Are you more worried by Trump’s interference in the market economy or by companies’ ability to subvert markets’ rules?

 

I don’t see those as binary opposites but as complements. If regulation is constitutive of marketplaces (fraud standards, disclosure and labeling requirements, evidentiary requirements), then companies’ ability to subvert market rules will in fact interfere in the proper functioning of a market economy.

 

I think we’re likely to see both Trumpian interference and company subversion, in other words.

 

That said, I am concerned about Trump’s interference in markets, for example his bullying of companies and the idea of imposing border taxes. In the U.S. and elsewhere, we are going to see the need for legislative and judicial constraints upon this kind of executive action.

 

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